I was wondering why, yet again the americans are being stupid, with universal healthcare people live longer, oh thats right, the rich dont want the poor getting healthcare, sad, sad, sad.
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Yes because it clearly has to do with the class struggle of rich vs poor. I mean lets not mention how the expanding federal debt only insure that the class distinction will grow even more obvious.
Then again maybe you feel that the rich are actually lizard people conspiring against humanity.
It’s largely a matter of confusion and disagreement.
I seriously doubt most Americans specifically want to prevent others from getting healthcare. The issue for them is more that they do not want to have to pay for others–especially those who feel that poverty is the fault of the poor, not outside circumstances. Moreover, understand that older generations of Americans were conditioned quite early on to immediately mistrust anything labeled “socialist” or “communist”–so the moment someone points out that public healthcare is something of a socialist idea, it’s going to start taking flak. Thing is, public education and the like are also more socialist ideas.
We’re a mixed economy, whether or not people want to admit. Socialism and capitalism can mix without a problem–in fact, I doubt many would want to live in a purely capitalist society. Most other countries in the world have successfully mixed varying amounts of both systems.
The fears that I’ve heard:
1) Marks a move into more socialist-style programs. In my opinion, this is largely ridiculous, as many of the things the same people really like operate on some principles of socialism. Not too many people would call out for complete privatization of primary and secondary education!
2) That they will be forced to pay, through taxes, for everyone else’s healthcare. This is a more legitimate concern–most countries with good nationalized healthcare programs do have far higher tax rates than most Americans pay, and American cultural values tend to mistrust things that don’t automatically reward individual effort and punish dependence on the group–as surprising number of people will, as mentioned before, blame poverty on the poor and say that they ought to have gotten a better education, or to just get another or better job. Sadly, it’s not as simple as that.
3) That they will be forced to use a very basic healthcare plan, and will not be able to choose better care. This is usually stated as not being the intent of the reform at all, but the source of the fear can somewhat be seen. Again, most older Americans’ associations with “socialism” is what they heard about the Soviet Union and Eastern Bloc countries during the Cold War–and the “communist” systems in those countries did usually provide near universal but low-quality goods and services, healthcare included. They will also look at stories of the Canadian and British systems, and complain of the long waits for certain types of medical care that they’ve heard of in those countries.
I’m not against reform, per se. Just that this is not reform. We don’t get a choice. No vote. It’s put on a plate & shoved down our throats. It’s the beginning of the legislature forcing us to do what they want. With Mr. O stacking the court, it will lead to other kinds of forced behavior.
By the way, the Rasmussen poll shows that the broad majority of Americans do NOT want this reform.